Posted by: SOE | February 5, 2008

Farmers, Botters, Realm Money Traders Oh My!

One aspect of the customer service world at SOE that always gathers comments is that of gold sellers, credit spammers, botters, farmers, real money traders, hackers, exploiters or whatever you would like to call them.  This is a topic that you always see on various threads on the forums as well as a multitude of tickets in the queues. Let me get straight to the point and set the record straight as there are so many rumors in regards to what we do or don’t do with the players and accounts associated with these actions. First and foremost, we do take action against such accounts and players.  In fact just last week we banned over 12,000 subscriptions (not free accounts or trial accounts but active subscriptions) across the SOE catalog of games (EverQuest II 5,929, Star Wars Galaxies 3,800, Vanguard 572, EverQuest 346, etc.).   This isn’t a one time shot; this is a regular result of the time and manpower we put into combating the cheating in each game.    How this comes about is three fold: 

  1. Customer submitted Petitions/Tickets:

 Our Game Masters, in answering your petitions/tickets, investigate and verify that these players are doing what was reported by other players.   Sometimes players will see immediate results in regards to their petitions, and at other times they won’t because we want to thoroughly investigate the alleged issue and actions of the account, maybe tie them to other related accounts, determine what 3rd party software is or is not being used and see exactly what is happening.   Sometimes the reported players are doing nothing wrong, the player that reported them was mistaken, and no harm done.  But we do investigate, we do take it seriously and we do take action.

2. Logs, event triggers, and reports:

 We have a plethora of logs and reports at our disposal to help us identify players that are exploiting the game, hacking, cheating or otherwise diminishing the gameplay for others.  These tools enable us to identify not only individuals cheating, but identify rings of cheaters which we banish from the game.  A tool like the recently developed EverQuest II Spam Filter is a great example of the work that our development team does to make the land of Norrath more enjoyable for all.   This is being looked at by the other game teams for implementation, as well as other solutions like the creative solution the Star Wars Galaxy team implemented with the warden program, whereby volunteer wardens are able to squelch spammers immediately and automatically report them to GMs for further investigation and action.  

3. Online Game Master observation

 The simplest method is by simple observation by the GMs themselves.   Much of this is done in the background and unnoticed, while at other times it is a bit more public, like when in Star Wars Galaxies, the “Credit Spammers” of Mos Esley were flagged “Overt” and other players were able to attack them and put a stop to their chants of credit selling sites.  I imagine this was a dream come true for many.These actions and investigations take a lot of time, and this is just the high level overview of what happens, many of these investigations start with just one player that gets reported and by investigating the player activity, trades and transactions, it leads to various other accounts that also get banned.  For example, a short while ago, an EverQuest II player was reported, the GM doing the investigation found 152 related accounts which were also banned, and the following guilds were identified as being related to this illegal activity and disbanded: 

  • Bleke on Antonia Bayle
  • Over Lord on Butcherblock
  • Buobao on Guk
  • Onyx on Kithicor
  • Bougon of Hate on Nagafen
  • Jeweles on Venekor
  • Enlightcn on Vox
  • S H E on Vox

   I tell you all this to let you know that we are working diligently to remove this element from the games, but also as a word of warning to not support this behavior.   The only reason they exist is people continue to purchase items from these individuals and companies.  Doing so is not only a violation of our code of conduct and terms of service, and could result in action taken against your subscription, but more important there are real world examples of credit card fraud associated with this activity.  We continually see hundreds of stolen credit cards used by these individuals to purchase accounts that are then used for the above actions.   This will be an ongoing battle, and we will do whatever we can to lessen the impact of this behavior within each of the games.  This isn’t just a Customer Support task, we work together with the developer teams, community teams, and legal teams, and will continue to do so to assure that SOE games continue to be as fun and entertaining. 

Brad “Mutato” Wilcox

Executive Director of Customer Support

Responses

Thank you, this is EXCELLENT news!

and may I add: please oh PLEASE implement the “wardens” in EQ, and give them the ability to flag spammers as PvP…as a Wizard I would love to one-shot nuke these level 1 spammers into oblivion, muahahahahahahaha!

This is great news to see reported. Though I was always sure SOE we’re working hard on this one getting some feedback is good.

Hopefully some people will read this and think twice about buying but I think most people doing the buying won’t be checking the support pages until they get their account hijacked or something.

Macintosh EQ…

There is a sever called Al’Kabor with a VERY dedicated following. Since the Macintosh is growing in marketshare, perhaps SOE could give this server some well needed and well deserved attention. We need some GM lovin’ in Al’Kabor.

Question: What are you doing against Guilds using exploits, e.g. flagging a raid for Crystallos in one Month when is needed AT LEAST 40 days?

I for one have a superb solution to the crisis of gold and selling and/or buying. If the game provided the funds to afford such expensive items in game that people are selling things for, then there would be no need for people to buy anything from these people whatsoever! Quests, rares you name it, all these things pay very little in cash compared to what is for sale on any broker. The whole economy of the game is totally messed up, by either greed or the buying/selling.

If SoE would give more to it’s players so they could afford to pay the exhorbitant prices people are selling stuff for should more than take care of the unwanted hackers.

I just made a new toon, who in his own ability to make cash and levelled maxed in skills, could not afford to even buy one piece of L42 Armor needed, at the going price of 2p and max of 3p50g. Also, he only mananged to mine 1 [one] rare by the time he reached L50, so hence no armor for L40’s. Total earned by quests 2p25g30s33c. Check those figures and you can understand why people go out and buy the damn gold in the first place.

Thank you for the information, and the mail sent to me specifically pointing me here to read your words. I appreciate the efforts done by Sony on this.

That said, I still believe they are not enough. You have a solid base of good players who would like nothing more than to assist with this problem. They can assist in many ways, from typing a command to remove the ability for a spammer to send tells, to a fast-line report system for immediate GM attention for the more severe violators.

Your users want to help. Many are willing to spend part of their game time to assist in this massive flood of problem children. Please consider giving us the tools and resources, beyond a /petition, to help. After all, in a good evening I find no cheaters, but in a bad one I can find 10. And you can only have one /petition outstanding at a time…

Once again, thank you for your efforts.

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